Abstract:
Sacramento State President Alexander Gonzalez approved an increase in student fees despite a negative student vote at the April 28-29 student election....
Originally posted byRolling Thunder
The most important thing about Gonzalez overriding the student referendum is that it's an illegal move on Gonzalez's part to do that, and I am shocked Natalie Flynn did not include this in her article.
His veto violates Education Code §89300 as well as CSU Executive Order 1034, and therefore is illegal.
Since Natalie Flynn did not include it in her story, read it for yourself:
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/edc/89300-89304.html
http://www.calstate.edu/EO/EO-1034.html
Originally posted byRolling Thunder
The most important thing about Gonzalez overriding the student referendum is that it's an illegal move on Gonzalez's part to do that, and I am shocked Natalie Flynn did not include this in her article.
His veto violates Education Code §89300 as well as CSU Executive Order 1034, and therefore is illegal.
Since Natalie Flynn did not include it in her story, read it for yourself:
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/edc/89300-89304.html
http://www.calstate.edu/EO/EO-1034.html
Originally posted byDoug
THANK YOU SO MUCH DR. G!!!
There is a large contingent of folks backing you and the building up of our campus and DI athletics program!
Ummm Rolling Thunder, did you read your own sources? Per link # 2...
"The miscellaneous course fee delegation of authority gives campus presidents the ability to establish miscellaneous course fees on their campus within the ranges established by this executive order."
Your first link has no bearing on his approval of the fee hike. Go home.
Originally posted byGeorge Thomas
First, it is obvious Doug is in college for sports, not to learn.
Second, Gonzalez doesn't respect the will of the students. Maybe the students should give him a vote of no confidence as the faculty did a few years ago.
Originally posted byPB Newsome
Cry me a river, $18 for the year. $3 a month. You people are the reason this state is disentegrating. This isn't your school, this is the State of California's school and if you haven't noticed, the State is broke. If you want to attend this campus, this is what it costs. If you don't like it, go to Stanislaus, East Bay or Sonoma.
This is to retain current sports, not grow them. Why can't you understand that these 'jocks' are students too. If they can get a 'free' education for doing what they have prepared for most of their young life, more power to them.
And Gonzalez didn't have to give the students any say in this, he is the President of the campus. He can enact what is best for the overall benefit of the campus. Students attend this campus, they don't rule it.
And yes, the alumni you like to berate are what subsidizes this campus and pay higher taxes so you cry babies can get 'a cheap education'.
Get real and grow up. If you can't afford it, the highly respected US military is recruiting.
Originally posted byAllen
Under Education Code 89300: "Upon the favorable vote of two-thirds of the students voting in an election held." Because two-thirds of the total votes cast were not a "no," It was a close vote if memory serves, this does not apply. There is nothing in the code that indicates that Gonzales did anything against CSU policy or code. The code has a REQUIREMENT of two-thirds in favor or against for the voting to count, the voting did not yield two-thirds in favor of yes or no to the fee increase. The $40 maximum also does not apply in this instance, again because of the vote.
The code also does not say that it is a requirement to get the opinion of the student body before raising fees to support building and operational fees. 89304 pertains more to organizations and businesses that operate on campus, it has nothing to do with the election that didnt mean anything. Perhaps, if some of you didnt want this to happen, you should have expressed your opinion more on campus.
Go ahead, interpret the code however you want. Im not advocating for institutions to raise fees whenever they want, but when certain functions need additional financial support, it is the students' responsibility to step up and support the place that is giving them their education.
Go Hornets!
Originally posted byAllen
Phil T:
You should transfer to another school, as much as you think people dont care about athletics, you are ignorant. Sac State is very competitive in the sports it competes in, has the thrid highest fottball attendance numbers in the Big Sky, has a great baseball program, as well as numerous ohter successful teams/programs.
Chico, where athletics are virtually non existant, would be a better fit for you, please leave Sac State. By the way, I donate enough each year to support the increased fees for at least a dozen students.
Originally posted byAllen
Phil T:
You should transfer to another school, as much as you think people dont care about athletics, you are ignorant. Sac State is very competitive in the sports it competes in, has the thrid highest fottball attendance numbers in the Big Sky, has a great baseball program, as well as numerous ohter successful teams/programs.
Chico, where athletics are virtually non existant, would be a better fit for you, please leave Sac State. By the way, I donate enough each year to support the increased fees for at least a dozen students.
Originally posted byV
From Education Code §89300: "The trustees may approve an increase or decrease in the student body fee only after the fee increase or decrease has been approved by a majority of students voting in a referendum established for that purpose."
Clearly the majority of students did not want the fee increase and the president instituted it anyway. I think this sums up the violation.
I am totally for having athletics programs at school and allowing students to attend college based on their abilities. I just don't want them to be paid by increasing the fees of otehr college students. Why don't we tax Java City and other corporations on campus to fund our programs and restore our classrooms, etc?
Rolling Thunder
posted 6/25/09 @ 10:38 AM PST
His veto violates Education Code §89300 as well as CSU Executive Order 1034, and therefore is illegal.
Since Natalie Flynn did not include it in her story, read it for yourself:
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/edc/89300-89304.html
http://www.calstate.edu/EO/EO-1034.html