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Students try to realize a DREAM

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Policemen on horses carefully watched as more than 1,000 students and community members marched on the State Capitol to urge Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to sign the DREAM Act on Friday. ...

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MaryJ

posted 10/01/08 @ 7:19 AM PST

Yeah, that's one thing this country REALLY needs -- more ethnic studies students! Pay for your own freakin' college education, or go back to Mexico where I understand college is completely free for all who qualify.

Dr. Gene A. Nelson

posted 10/01/08 @ 8:11 AM PST

As an older U.S. citizen Ph.D. scientist from California who has been permanently displaced from his career by the "alphabet soup" of work visa programs - and by "high tech" employers hiring (or retaining) foreign citizens who have become "out of status," I have no sympathy for those that allege that people that are not U.S. citizens have any right to receive U.S. taxpayer - funded benefits.

I believe that the U.S. should prioritize the huge unmet needs of U.S. citizens first. That may seem a quaint notion, but history shows it has happened before. Please google on both phrases "Great Depression" and "forced repatriation" to learn how the U.S. forcibly repatriated about 1/2 million non-citizens during the Great Depression to create workforce opportunities for American citizens. There were 1,440 links on 1 October 2008.

I also recommend Mark Krikorian's new book, "The New Case Against Immigration" to help State Hornet readers understand how incrementalism has been used to facilitate immigration flows since 1965.

For Sac State students that want work to reform the immigration situation to help U.S. citizens, there are powerful, free activism tools available at NumbersUSA.com

Pancho Villa

posted 10/01/08 @ 1:47 PM PST

Originally posted by

Dr. Gene A. Nelson

As an older U.S. citizen Ph.D. scientist from California who has been permanently displaced from his career by the "alphabet soup" of work visa programs - and by "high tech" employers hiring (or retaining) foreign citizens who have become "out of status," I have no sympathy for those that allege that people that are not U.S. citizens have any right to receive U.S. taxpayer - funded benefits.


Never in my life have I heard of a person with a Ph. D. losing a job to an undocumented worker. You, sir, are full of shit.

If you can't find a job with a Ph. D., than you suck at life.

Ron Silva

posted 10/01/08 @ 9:36 PM PST

No one with a Ph.D. would ever say " I have a Ph.D. in science from California," you are obviously an ignorant liar. People are specialized "science" is to vague you stupid conservative man. You are just some idiot trying to sound like people with a PhD actually don't understand the value of education and would truly understand the need for education of these people. Like I said, most educated people understand the importance of educating these people.

Armando

posted 10/03/08 @ 8:32 PM PST

Originally posted by

Dr. Gene A. Nelson

As an older U.S. citizen Ph.D. scientist from California who has been permanently displaced from his career by the "alphabet soup" of work visa programs - and by "high tech" employers hiring (or retaining) foreign citizens who have become "out of status," I have no sympathy for those that allege that people that are not U.S. citizens have any right to receive U.S. taxpayer - funded benefits.

I believe that the U.S. should prioritize the huge unmet needs of U.S. citizens first. That may seem a quaint notion, but history shows it has happened before. Please google on both phrases "Great Depression" and "forced repatriation" to learn how the U.S. forcibly repatriated about 1/2 million non-citizens during the Great Depression to create workforce opportunities for American citizens. There were 1,440 links on 1 October 2008.

I also recommend Mark Krikorian's new book, "The New Case Against Immigration" to help State Hornet readers understand how incrementalism has been used to facilitate immigration flows since 1965.

For Sac State students that want work to reform the immigration situation to help U.S. citizens, there are powerful, free activism tools available at NumbersUSA.com


Well it turns out Mr. Scientist, that after the repatriation act. WWII broke out and where do you think the people that kept this nation afloat during those four years came from. I empathize with you for being displaced from your job, but you should have kept educating yourself in order to keep your job. Science in general terms is constantly changing and therefore as sad as it is, you just got replaced because you were outdated. As for the "alphabet soup" recruiting, the ones responsible are the companies themselves. Not the people who leave their homelands in search of better paying jobs. In order to guarantee job security, voters must demand certain legislature form their local representatives and hold them responsible for mass amounts of layoffs. It is a global market and in order to stay on top one must keep training and educating themselves to keep their privileges.

Mallory S

posted 10/03/08 @ 1:20 PM PST

This country is built on the backs of "illegal immigrants". Beyond that where is the humanity. We are people nothing more. Borders are illusions and when it comes down to it why would anyone not want to see a child succeed. The fact of the matter is that the only way to get ahead in today's society is to get a four year education. These students who attend universities are going to stay in the United States; they are going to become productive members of THIS society, most of them don't intend on leaving the US. Isn't that what you are all concerned with, how these children can benefit or harm you? The lower level of education one has the more likely they are going to end up in prison. To educate a student at CSUS is under $4,000 a year while annual incarceration costs per inmate are about $24,000. The concern of using "our" tax money is ridiculous; anyone working for a paycheck is getting taxes taken out. The only thing is that people with out a legal status can not get tax returns so not only are they paying taxes but they are not reaping the refund.
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